Marvin Shilmer

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  Rita Swan of Child Inc....

  by Lee Elder in

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  2. medical

  ...wrote a piece on the work of ajwrb and what had been accomplished, as well as how it was done.

  i had not read this before this evening when i came across it in their newsletter archives.

  its interesting to see the perspective of someone who works as a child advocate and non-jw.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Correctly maintains that reform on fractions was not clearly stated in a directive to the congs but (typically for another doctrinal flip flop) it is mentioned in passing as an answer to a phoney Awake mag "Question's from readers".

  This habit of Watchtower to refrain from full disclosure is one of its most self-damning tendencies, and in this case one that literally jeopardizes health and welfare of its attendant followers.

  One glaring instance of Watchtower's failure-to-disclose is found in a WORKSHEET Watchtower developed for its membership in year 2007.

  Considering ramification to health and welfare of members, it staggers the mind to realize that on this document Watchtower failed to highlight the SINGLE LARGEST constituent from blood that JWs CAN ACCEPT, and when JWs do learn about this through back-channels a documented 96% are willing to accept this product from blood. (See: Over 96% Accept 99%!)

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  They took all the circuit's money!

  by BackSlider in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  during the assembly they made an announcement about contributions and as always mentioned how expenses outnumbered the contributions so far and we are at a deficit of $6700 or so.

  however, they then said that our money on hand in savings for the circuit was $51,000 and that they voted and will be sending $45,000 of it to the society.

  who voted?

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Once the accounts are cleaned out I don't see the average circuit or congregation building up that kind of cash reserve again.

  Agreed. The sentiment I've heard expressed time and again in recent months to this very event (raiding of circuit funds) goes like this: Well, in the future when they announce a deficit I'm content to let the brothers draw from the funds they've already taken from us because that's what we used to draw from to pay our current bills.

  The days of circuits and congregations building cash reserves is over. Donations are already falling and will continue to fall. Converts to JWs (those not raised in the truff) are having flashbacks to days when they tired of churches relentless pursuit of their hard-earned dollar, and they're sharing the feeling it leaves them with.

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  They took all the circuit's money!

  by BackSlider in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  during the assembly they made an announcement about contributions and as always mentioned how expenses outnumbered the contributions so far and we are at a deficit of $6700 or so.

  however, they then said that our money on hand in savings for the circuit was $51,000 and that they voted and will be sending $45,000 of it to the society.

  who voted?

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  Marvin Shilmer

  There's only so much they can take before there's nothing left to take.

  True. But just wait and see what happens as more and more congregations get consolidated into distant KH facilities while the nearer KH everyone was used to attending gets sold off like just another piece of used-up real estate, with all proceeds going directly to Watchtower.

  I'm telling you, JWs are starting to notice this relentless cash grabbing and they're tiring of it.
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  They took all the circuit's money!

  by BackSlider in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  during the assembly they made an announcement about contributions and as always mentioned how expenses outnumbered the contributions so far and we are at a deficit of $6700 or so.

  however, they then said that our money on hand in savings for the circuit was $51,000 and that they voted and will be sending $45,000 of it to the society.

  who voted?

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Truly I tell you today, Watchtower's cash grabbing is getting on everyone's nerves and will eventually be its undoing if it keeps on like it's going. Everyone, and I mean everyone, is noticing it.

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  Letter to be read at meeting this week about the downsize

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a family member who is a bethelite informed me today that there is a letter to be read soon ( this week or next) concerning the downsizing.

  so probably someone who has their midweek meeting early in the week will be able to fill in the details.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  The announcement is going out around the globe to all congregations. Each Branch has been told to reduce its family.
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  Reduce the size of your family!

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the watchtower organization resists the idea that its workforce is comprised of employees.

  instead it promotes the idea that these individuals comprise a family.

  yet recently there is a directive that smacks a totalitarian tendency.

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  The sweeps and reductions in size are always related to the biggest enemy that every organization faces - treason.

  The Watchtower organization is not in a position to change human nature.

  Odds are practically 100% that more than a few "family" members experiencing the "reduction" will end up really, really pissed off, which will inevitably lead to all sorts of revelations about what goes on in Watchtower's inner bowels. One day we'll be reading minutes of GB meetings. I can see it coming. Even those who survive the family size reduction will be left unnerved.

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  Reduce the size of your family!

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  the watchtower organization resists the idea that its workforce is comprised of employees.

  instead it promotes the idea that these individuals comprise a family.

  yet recently there is a directive that smacks a totalitarian tendency.

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  Mob bosses take better care of their extended families.

  I hadn't thought of mobs usage of "family" to depict the relationship of its workforce. From time to time a mob family does decide to reduce its size. It tends to get messy. I suppose it's another manifestation of the times. You know, "no natural affection" and all that stuff.

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  The longest minute?

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  which is longer, a treadmill minute or a microwave minute?.

  ... or every minute of every thursday meeting when you wanted to get back home in time to see red dwarf and some elder who loved the sound of his own voice had the mic..

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Tough question!
  A treadmill minute is a bit sporadic. It's shorter when I've got Gimme Back My Bullets going in the headset and longer when I'm looking at the calorie counter. Make no mistake about the mystical affect of a good Lynyrd Skynyrd toon. Led Zepplin tends to have the same effect.
  A microwave minute is a little more consist. It's shorter when I'm trying to wiz in the washroom before my wife starts asking what I'm nuking (usually something she had her mind set on) and longer when i'm thinking about my own hunger, but this difference is not very great because in each case I'm anxious to eat. Only in one case I'm distracted in attempt to quickly relieve the bladder.
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  Reduce the size of your family!

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  the watchtower organization resists the idea that its workforce is comprised of employees.

  instead it promotes the idea that these individuals comprise a family.

  yet recently there is a directive that smacks a totalitarian tendency.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  The Watchtower organization resists the idea that its workforce is comprised of employees. Instead it promotes the idea that these individuals comprise a family. Yet recently there is a directive that smacks a Totalitarian tendency. The family has been asked to reduce itself. Pretty tough choice!!!

  See: Reduce the size of your family!

  My best guess is this request will lead to more than a few disenchanted individuals who realize they've been removed from the family by their former family members. So much for sharing the hardship as a firmly resolved and unified family. The family unit has been asked to reduce itself!

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  Farewell

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  "don't be dismayed by good-byes.

  a farewell is necessary before you can meet again.

  and meeting again, after moments or lifetimes, is certain for those who are friends.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Belief isn't who or what you are. It is a coat you chose to wear ... and should be discarded when it's worn out and people start laughing at it.

  I think each of the three assertions above are true sometimes but not all of the time.